The decision of the Brazilian Super Cup met face to face the teams that have won the most trophies in recent years in the country
The first title of the 2023 national (Site notre bureau spécialisé) season flamenco Oh dear Palm trees. This Saturday (28), the two clubs face each other in Brasilia, for the only final of the country Brazilian Supercupand rewarded something their fans love — and rivals understandably hate.
No matter who lifts the cup at the Estádio Mané Garrincha, it is certain that winning the Super Cup will only go up the predominance of flamenguistas and palmeirenses in recent years in the country. A phenomenon that attracts attention even when compared to what is happening at the court of the greats of the world.
From 2018 to today, Flamengo and Palmeiras have raised together 19 trophies. There were four Conmebol Libertadoresfour more Brazilof them Brazilian cupstwo Super Coupes, two more South American Cups and even five states of Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo. Such a collection of titles is larger than, for example, real Madrid e Barcelona pendant won this period (for the complete list at the end of the text).
The giants of Spain were champions 14 times in the last five years, a good number, of course, but still less than the cariocas and paulistas in the sum. The same goes for the duo that has won the most titles in Italy (InterMilan e juventus), and France (PSG e Lille), in Germany (Bayern Munich e Borussia Dortmund) and England (Manchester City e liverpool).
The clubs led by Pep Guardiola and Jürgen Klopp are sons of the most projects of the Flamengo and Palmeiras brand, with 18 titles since 2018. With the Supercup, the Brazilians are already assured of their 19th cup and will certainly go much further in the season which is only just beginning.
Is a lot of domain?
There are other ways of understanding the dominance of Brazilian (Site notre bureau spécialisé) in recent years. If international tournaments are exclusive, Flamengo and Palmeiras have, together, 13 titles in the country. In this scenario, only the English and French pairs outperform the Brazilians, with 15 trophies.
And it produces an essential because of Manchester City and PSG. In England, Guardiola’s team and one of the champions 11 timesonly four including premier leaguewhile in France, the team of Messi, Neymar and Mbappé won 13 ballsbetween national championships and cups.
Real Madrid and Barcelona, for example, have 10 national titles together since 2018. That is, it is possible to say that in recent years even the « owners » of Spanish (Site notre bureau spécialisé) have not won more cups than Flamengo and Palmeiras in the country. Chosen unthinkable until recently.
In percentage terms, however, the Brazilian duo are still lower than their rivals in Europe’s biggest leagues. Conquered Flamengo and Palmeiras 52% of titles played in Brazil over the past five years.
The biggest name comes from Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund, Champions in 13 out of 15 possible competitions in English (Site notre bureau spécialisé). PSG and Lille appear shortly after, with 15 titles above 18 (83.3%)followed by City and Liverpool (75%), Juventus Inter (73.3%) then Real Madrid and Barcelona (66.6%).
Data like this only confirms how much Flamengo and Palmeiras dominate Brazilian (Site notre bureau spécialisé) lately. And since this story is not likely to change any time soon…
Compare the titles of Flamengo and Palmeiras with the teams of the 5 biggest European leagues:
Flamengo and Palmeiras: 19
-
4x Libertadores (2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022)
-
4x Brazil (2018, 2019, 2020 and 2022)
-
2x Cup Winners’ Cup (2020 and 2022)
-
2x Brazilian Cup (2020 and 2022)
-
2x Super Cup (2020 and 2021)
-
3x Carioca (2019, 2020 and 2021)
-
2x Paulists (2020 and 2022)
Manchester City v Liverpool: 18th
-
5x Premier League (2017/18, 2018/19, 2019/20, 2020/21 and 2021/22)
-
2x FA Cup (2018/19 and 2021/22)
-
1x World (2019)
-
1x Champions (2018/19)
-
1x UEFA Super Cup (2019)
-
5x League Cup (2017/18, 2018/19, 2019/20, 2020/21 and 2021/22)
-
3x FA Super Coupe (2018, 2019 and 2022)
Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund: 16th
-
1x World (2020)
-
1x Champions (2019/20)
-
1x UEFA Super Cup (2020)
-
5x Bundesliga (2017/18, 2018/19, 2019/20, 2020/21 and 2021/22)
-
3x German Cup (2018/19, 2019/20 and 2020/21)
-
5x German Supercup (2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022)
PSG and Lille: 15th
-
5x Ligue 1 (2017/18, 2018/19, 2019/20, 2020/21 and 2021/22)
-
3x French Cup (2017/18, 2019/20 and 2020/21)
-
5x French Super Cup (2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022)
-
2x French League Cup (2017/18 and 2019/20)
Real Madrid v Barcelona: 14th
-
1x World (2018)
-
2x Champions (2017/18 and 2021/22)
-
1x UEFA Super Cup (2022)
-
4x LaLiga (2017/18, 2018/19, 2019/20 to 2021/22)
-
4x Spanish Super Cup (2018, 2020, 2022 and 2022/23)
-
2x King’s Cup (2017/18 and 2020/21)
Inter Milan and Juve: 11
-
4x Italy (2017/18, 2018/19, 2019/20 and 2020/21)
-
3x Italian Cup (2017/18, 2020/21 and 2021/22)
-
4x Italian Super Cup (2018, 2020, 2021 and 2022)
Privacy Policy:
Embedded information from other sites:
The passages of this site are likely to insert embedded content (such as videos, files, articles, etc.). The content taken from other sites is composed in a similar way as if the visitor went to this other site. These websites could collect data about you, activate cookies, instruct other control bodies, monitor your actions with these contents loaded if you have a linked account on their website.
Storage times for your information:
In cases where you leave text, the comment and its supporting data are filed indefinitely. This is to diagnose and mechanically tune the following texts rather than keeping them in the moderation queue. their private space. All accounts know how to intervene on their private data at any time. Site managers also know how to act on this information.
Disclosure of your individual information:
All comments from Internet users may be checked using an industrialized service for detecting suspicious texts.
Photos Videos Sounds:
When uploading photos to this site, we recommend that you refrain from uploading photographs with EXIF GPS data tags. Individuals surfing the site can download tracking information from these images.
Comments on this site:
When you leave a comment on this site, the data written inside the form presented on the screen, but also the IP identification and the user identifier of your navigation software are memorized with the aim of helping us to detect unwanted remarks.
Cookies:
If you send a text to the site, you will be offered to save your name, email address and site in cookies. This is only for your convenience so that you do not have to re-enter these data in case you enter another comment later. These cookies expire after a certain period of time. In cases where you visit the login part, an ephemeral cookie will be created in order to diagnose whether your browser accepts cookies. This does not store any private data and will be terminated mechanically as soon as you stop your browser program. When you log in, we run a number of cookies to establish your registration data and browsing preferences. The duration of existence of a connection cookie is a few days, the life expectancy of a screen option cookie is of the order of a year. When you select "Remember Me", the login cookie will persist for less than a month. When you initiate the disconnection of your account, the connection cookie will be repealed. If you modify or publish a page, an additional cookie will be inserted in your navigation software. This cookie does not include any secret data. It simply marks the registration number of the post that you have just corrected. He perished after twenty-four hours.
The rights you have over your information:
If you have a personal space or if you have recorded comments on the site, you have the option of requesting a file introducing all the private data that we have about you, including those that you have communicated to us. . You also have the right to request the deletion of private data about you. This does not take into account data collected for administrative, legal or security purposes.
Use and allocation of your private data:
In cases where you request a reset of your password, your IP address will be included in the reset email.